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Agencies Making Transmissions Abbreviations Cleveland ARTCC Imperial Radar PositionIRL-RCleveland ARTCC Lorain Radar Position LOR-RCleveland ARTCC Lorain Radar Associate PositionLOR-DCleveland ARTCC Indianhead Radar PositionIHD-RAir Canada Airlines Flight 560ACA60Northwest Airlines Flight 1271NWA71USAF Gopher 06GOF06 I hereby certify that the following is a true transcription of the recorded conversation pertaining to the subject  FORMDROPDOWN  involving N591UA(UAL93):  FORMTEXT Jeffrey M. Rich  FORMTEXT Operations Support Specialist  FORMTEXT Cleveland ARTCC 134013411342134313441345:10IRL-Rgo ahead lorain 1345:11LOR-Ryeah united ninety three 1345:12LOR-Rwe dont know what altitude he at but i believe thats the tracking on the primary goin southeast bound 1345:18IRL-Roh you gotta be kiddin 1345:20LOR-Rdont let anyone go around him whats that 1345:21IRL-Rtell anybody what 1345:22LOR-Ddont let anybody go around him because we dont know what altitude hes at ok alright its an emergency and im sure im sure you heard about it um but like i said we dont know what altitude hes at so we gotta make sure we clear out underneath 1345:33IRL-Rok 1345:34LOR-Dok 1345:35IRL-Ri got a midex i just gave ravenna headed right head on with him 1345:37LOR-Daw shit 1345:38IRL-Ri didnt know about 1345:40IRL-Rok get off1346 1346:48LOR-Rimperial 1346:49IRL-Rimperial 1346:50LOR-Ryeah are you turnin that midex away from that primary up there 1346:52IRL-Ri i the midex ravenna is talkin to the midex i seen him turn him out of the uniteds way 1346:56LOR-Ryeah yeah put your primaries up bill im pretty sure thats him its tracking (unintelligible)1346:59IRL-Ri got em on and trackin him 1347:00LOR-Rok ok1348 1348:45IRL-Rair canada five sixty now it looks like youre basically established on that heading twelve o clock twelve to fifteen miles we have a another aircraft southeast bound ah were not sure of his altitude would you happen to see any kind of visual on any aircraft in that vicinity13491349:04ACA60ok and thats twelve o clock yourre lookin 1349:07IRL-Rok at this point with your turn hes probably going to be closer to one to one thirty maybe fifteen miles ah do you see anything out there 1349:16ACA60ok were just rolling out on that heading now ah were lookin ah nothin yet 1349:21IRL-Ralright if you see anything let me know 1349:24ACA60roger any idea what direction hes proceeding 1349:26IRL-Rhes proceeding southeast bound 1349:30ACA60ok thanks were lookin 1349:32IRL-Rnorthwest twelve seventy one i may have to turn you out of the way of an aircraft we dont his altitude dont know where hes going ah but right now hes twelve o clock about sixty miles southeast bound and i have instructions to keep you well clear of him 1349:46NWA71northwest twelve seventy one1350 1350:04NWA71northwest twelve seventy one say the distance on that aircraft 1350:10IRL-Rone second sir and ill give it to you 1350:16IRL-R right now hes exactly fifty miles right off your nose were gonna give you a turn in about two minutes to stay well clear 1350:23NWA71twelve seventy one1351 1351:23IRL-Rnorthwest twelve seventy one fly heading of ah two six zero vectors away from that airplane 1351:30NWA71two six zero northwest twelve seventy one 1351:32IRL-Ryeah things are really gettin crazy right now 1351:37NWA71yep135213531353:20IRL-Rand northwest twelve seventy one just ah well heading one eight zero i gotta make sure you stay clear of that other aircraft hes about twelve miles north of you do you show him on your tcas by chance 1353:33NWA71twelve seventy one negative 1353:36IRL-Ralright because he is well hes not part of the problem is hes got his transponder turned off 1354135513561357135813591400 1401140214031403:33IRL-Rgopher zero six fly heading of zero three zero make it a tight turn this is away from an aircraft that nobody knows what hes doing 1403:40GOF06ok zero three zero gopher zero six wheres the traffic sir 1403:44IRL-Rill give it to you in just a second 1403:53IRLgopher zero six ah traffics probably at oh eleven thirty to twelve thirty and thirty five miles he just was going to the east now hes turning back the southeast and to be honest now ive lost him on that radar odds are hes very low but were not taking any chances so a tight turn to a thirty heading to get away from there 1404 1404:13GOF06roger that were turning right zero three zero gopher zero six 1405:00IRL-Rgopher zero six again i lost the target on him and to be safe im going to run you north about twenty five miles before i put you back on course and this is that track on the thirty heading is away from the direction i last had him ah proceeding 1405:15GOF06ok ah gopher zero six copies and ah sir if youd like weve got ah black smoke in sight at our nine o clock now and looks like about thirty miles down low probably rising up to about ah five thousand feet or so over 1405:28IRL-Ryou say black smoke in sight 1405:31GOF06thats affirmative black smoke its not a cloud its black smoke sir 1405:41IRL-Rok is that smokes on the ground you say coming off the ground 1405:45GOF06well it looks like its suspended in the air sir ah it looks like its at the same level as the scattered clouds i guess it to be about ah three to five thousand feet in the air i cant tell if its coming up off the plume right now but there is a ah round cloud of black smoke at our nine o clock 1406:00IRL-Rok that would be just about right from what I was shown before itd be at your nine o clock and im gonna guess about ah seventeen or eighteen miles 1406:10GOF06ok ah that ah checks with gopher zero six sir ah its hard to tell if that smoke is originating on the ground or if it just happened in midair 1406:22IRL-Rgopher zero six thatd be about the right location youre cleared direct dryer 1406:27GOF06ok direct dryer gopher zero six 140714081409141014111411:34IHD-Rcan we do that with johnstown through tower when he goes over to tower ok yeah go ahead 1411:41IRL-Ryeah this is imperial gopher zero six 1411:42IHD-Ruh huh 1411:43IRL-Rif i can im going to take him down towards that report of smoke area 1411:47IHD-Ri i just got it bill i have it i have the a guy right over it right now you can do what you want but i have a guy down there at five thousand feet overflew it we got the lat longs and everything 1411:55IRL-Ris that him 1411:57IHD-Rand a report 1411:58IRL-Rthat was the united 1411:59IHD-Rhe sees smoke and he didnt see flames he sees smoke and and 1412:03IRL-Rvisual positive i d on alright 1412:05IHD-Rright 141314141415141614171417:09IRL-Rgopher zero six i probably shouldnt ask and you probably cant answer but what are you doing in the air right now 1417:17GOF06well sir ah nobody has asked us to ah land at this time and if ah if thats what we need to do were prepared to do it 1417:24IRL-Rno nobodys told me i to put you down i put everybody else on the ground i was just curious and then you know like i said im not even sure i shoulda asked that 1417:49GOF06and ah cleveland from zero six 1417:52IRL-Ryeah go ahead sir 1417:53GOF06yes sir understand ah we were listening to ah some ah broadcast radio and ah they had informed ah their listeners that they had a ground stop on all aircraft on the ground and i understand that has been extended to nobodys flying at all now14181418:10IRL-Rlet me expand out End of Transcript ZOB-ARTCC-287 N591UA (UAL93) ZOB-ARTCC-287 N591UA (UAL93) Page  PAGE 7 of 7    ?AJLM[\]t| *+,9:noyz{ļunbjOJQJU OJQJmHjOJQJUjOJQJU CJOJQJj>*OJQJU 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